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Last Post 10-25-2012 11:21 AM by franc simari. 19 Replies.
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11-30-2010 03:48 AM
    Hey Guys,

    I'm having a problem with my Opt In instance. For some reason I am suddenly getting loads of failed distributions. My list has around 560 subscribers, but out of that 560, about 290 come back as Failed Distribution.

    When I check on the list cleanup, it shows lots of messages with "Failed to send mail, check address or SMTP settings."

    Strange thing is.. over half of them DO go!

    I can't find a reason for it? Any ideas on where to check? Any help apprecaited.

    Sorry I forgot to add. I've tried Scheduled and straight send..
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    11-30-2010 09:54 AM
    Hi Marc,

    A couple of questions...
    1. Do you see any errors under admin/event viewer? This should spit out some more specific information to the event logs about the SMTP error returned.

    2. Are you using the scheduler and throttling messages or just sending them all at once? It could be that your SMTP server has a limit on the number of emails that can go out at a specific time (like 500 per hour or something) and you need to utilize the throttling feature.

    Thanks!

    -Chad
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    11-30-2010 12:32 PM
    Hi There,

    Many thanks for the reply.

    Nothing in the event viewer unfortunately.

    The smtp server is our own exchange server. Newsletter was sent on a immediate schedule of 200 every 5 minutes.

    Ryan BakerinkUser is Offline
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    01-20-2011 02:55 PM
    Hello Marc,

    I'm sorry for the late response but please let us know if you are still having this issue and need our assistance.

    If you have any questions please let us know.

    Thanks,

    Ryan
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    02-08-2011 10:17 AM
    Hi Ryan,

    Yes, I'm afraid I'm still having problems. The last newsletter I sent have 350 sent ok, 302 failed distributions!
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    02-09-2011 04:13 AM
    I am having this issue also and it is making my client very upset.

    No matter how we send out the newsletter (send immediately or schedule) it shows all as failed distributions

    we are using version 4.3 with DNN 5.5

    I have installed opt in properly, and have been using this product for about 2 years now. (so please assume that the answer to your next five questions is that I have set it up properly) . It seems that with each new release of Opt-In one thing is fixed and another is broken, it is very frustrating. This Failed distributions is the new "broken" item.

    in addition I cannot get the image tracker to work and I have tried all of the correct settings, and read through every post on this forum trying to get it to work. The image shows as a broken image in Outlook and Opt in does not count views. I am not sure if this is tied in with this failed distributions issue, but I will assume so.

    Can I revert back to a previous version where the "Failed distributions" is working ?

    Thanks

    James
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    02-09-2011 04:19 AM
    Here is an update:

    I was able to get the image tracker to work if using "Schedule" and not "send immediately" (failed distributions still an issue though) .

    So here is the conclusion : the new button "send/schedule immediately" is a combo of the two old buttons "send immediately " and schedule immediately" , but with the same functionality as the old "send immediately". With the older versions the image tracking did now work with "send immediately" but did with "schedule immediately". So it looks like if you want your image tracking to work you need to use "Schedule" ONLY.

    I hope this helps others
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    02-09-2011 05:15 AM
    I have fixed the issue with the failed distributions:

    I was able to send out a newsletter using "Schedule" (not send immediately) and both the image tracker worked and the Failed distributions is showing the correct number ( 1 or 2 and NOT all).

    It does look like these two were tied. So to conclude, what it looks like  needs to be done to correct the failed distributions is:

    1. Get the image tracker working first (use only jpg has been recommended in previous threads)

    2. Send the newsletter out with "Schedule" only
    (for reduced frustrations, avoid using the "send/schedule immediately" button)


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    02-15-2011 08:43 AM
    Hello Marc,

    Did Alavri's post assist you in getting your failed distributions fixed?

    Please let us know.

    Thanks for the updates Alavri,

    Ryan
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    02-15-2011 10:56 AM
    Hi Ryan,

    Many thanks for the reply. I have not yet had the opportunity to test it. Unfortunately my lists are live so I can't really send test emails as it would bother my users.

    I will hopefully be sending a new mailshot out next week so will report back.

    Thanks
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    02-15-2011 11:15 AM
    Hi Marc,

    You should create a separate test list and have 4 -5 emails on it that are yours or friends/family/colleagues that you can send to, to both test the system and make sure your email newsletter looks correct.

    I would not wait to "test" and see if things work on your live database.

    I will usually send out 2 -5 emails test before the final one
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    02-17-2011 08:00 AM
    Hello Marc,

    Please let us know if Alavri's suggestion helps you and your issue.

    Thanks,

    Ryan
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    02-28-2011 03:50 PM
    Hello all,

    I am now having the "Failed distributions" issue again. My client has moved their email to an exchange server. and now I have had to set the mail server on the site to local host.

    The emails are being sent out but the system is still showing all emails as "Failed distributions" > I have set the alternate SMTP as local host as well

    Is there any to turn this OFF?? It is making my client very upset and they don't trust that all of the emails are going out.

    If there is a magic solution to either fix this, or just turn off failed distributions entirely this would make everyone very happy , please let me know

    Thanks
    Marc FullerUser is Offline
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    03-01-2011 09:30 PM
    HI There,

    Unfortunately the fix above didn't work for me. I sent an email out last night, and rather than use send/schedule immediately, I just scheduled it for an hour in the future.

    Time clicked around and it sent 315 and failed distribution on 309.

    Unfortunately it seems that fix does not work for everyone
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    06-02-2011 07:49 AM
    I guess this is a bug in one of the latest versions of Opt In. I have earlier versions that are working flawlessly.
    In the last ones, with 498 of 501 "failed" distributions, I have almost 160 unique reads (20%) which is not possible if only 3 messages were sent. I've checked the SMTP server and all messages seem to have been correctly sent.
    I have to try the scheduled mode, I'll tell you how it works...

    Francisco
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    Buck AndersonUser is Offline
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    08-16-2011 12:14 PM
    Hi Chad,

    I have another client that PowerDNN had just upgrade to version 5.6.3.

    They are using Opt In Email version 4.30.10.

    Since the DNN upgrade, they sent an email newsletter to
    1878 recipients with a failed distributions of 1874.

    Previously to the upgrade, they were sending to this list weekly with success and only one or two failures.

    They have the
    maximum number of emails to send in a single schedule: set at 50 with a time lapse of 10.

    Please advise.

    TIA
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    09-08-2012 02:21 PM
    I am quite Surprised that we have not heard back from anybody about this major issue. Does this mean that this company is not real legit?? So many people have this issue but there is not log or record about which emails failed and what was the reason!! How did the application mark these as failed distribution?? I receive the emails when I send them to 5 valid email addresses and receive 5 emails!! still two of them (God Knows Which One) show up as failed. 

    I scheduled an email to about 6000 people and 5800 failed!! now I am not sure if I reschedule or I am going to end up sending duplicates!!


    This is a major problem for people who use this package and not having solution means that this software is JUNK.

    As YOu can see I am quite frustrated with it. at least give me a refund so I can go somewhere else.
    Ryan BakerinkUser is Offline
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    09-10-2012 05:19 AM
    Hello Mo,

    I understand your frustrations. Data Springs isn't fully responsible to always provide a response in the Forums as this is a Community Support section.

    If you seek support, I would recommend emailing dnnsupport@datasprings.com.

    At the same time we have so many users, including ourselves that don't have issues with the Opt In Email module. I can't tell you why this isn't working for you, however my best recommendation is to reach out to our support team rather than taking your frustration out in the forums.

    Thanks,

    Ryan
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    10-24-2012 09:13 AM
    Ryan, can you tell me criteria optin email detects and reports failed distributions and bounces?
    I realized that using the IIS SMTP is more efficient in sending email then the mail server SMTP. While email optin detects and reports bounces, it does not detect failed distributions.
    What's strange is that all bounced email and failed distributions are going to the same email address on a different server.

    Do you have suggested SMTP settings?

    If it works for you can you  provide us with the SMTP settings. Of course you don't have to provide private data, and of course settings may very from site to site, but at least gives us a starting point.

    I have been having nuisance issues for years and have learned to live with. 

    Now, my email lists are getting larger and don't have time to live with unnecessary issues. I like to get this working correctly before upgrading to the latest versions of Optin email and DNN.

    BTW Using the IIS SMTP on a separate machine I have been able to send 350 email every 5 minutes increasing it by 50 every new distribution.


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    10-25-2012 11:21 AM
    BTW I am using DNN 5.6.2 and EmailOptin 4.3.71
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